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Post by redbarron on Jun 29, 2011 11:01:52 GMT -8
I didn't catch the name of the songs they played, but they were my favorite so far.
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Post by sthdvs2012 on Jun 29, 2011 12:05:37 GMT -8
"Sunny Days" was awesome. I really hope that one makes the album. That could be a great music video.
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Post by Bingo on Jun 29, 2011 16:33:16 GMT -8
I didn't catch the name of the songs they played, but they were my favorite so far. "Happy Days" and "Phoebe" It's the second time we've heard "Phoebe", but this time the lyrics were clearer. The music on that one is an absolute knockout for me. That is very much what I'd hoped they'd produce (though I'm sure the styles will be mixed on the album) One interesting point that I picked up from the chat was that Emily cried at the end of the AAA tour, because she knew that they were about to go on a long hiatus, and that there would be no Dixie Chick work for several years. I don't think most fans suspected that at that stage - I know I expected some definite follow-up to the Grammys, which were a few months later. However, it does seem to now explain comments from a couple of posters claiming to be roadies on the tour, who mentioned apparent emotional difficulties the Chicks were experiencing in the latter stages of that tour.
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Post by sthdvs2012 on Jun 29, 2011 18:00:37 GMT -8
I don't know why I said "Sunny Days" I was thinking "Happy Days" when I typed it... lol.. anyways, I agree with you Bingo.... I think it will sound a little different on the album... however, I hope they do not over produce it where all you hear is electric guitars... I want to hear the fiddle and banjo.... they need to know that we like that. lol
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Post by erik on Jun 29, 2011 18:29:16 GMT -8
Quote by sthdvs2012:
All good and well--but as Martie herself said in SHUT UP AND SING, it shouldn't be a forced thing. Whatever instrumentation they use, it needs to be in service of the song (IMHO).
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Post by sthdvs2012 on Jun 29, 2011 22:41:45 GMT -8
I think a little force wouldn't hurt every once in awhile
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Post by sam625 on Jun 30, 2011 4:01:44 GMT -8
I really like both songs but I prefer Phoebe as an instrumental. Maybe they will do both on the album. I think a lot of people commented to them they liked it as an instrumental. This last chat was a lot better than the last few. The questions were a lot better.
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Post by sthdvs2012 on Jun 30, 2011 8:37:18 GMT -8
I like Phoebe with vocals. It didn't do it for me when it was an instrumental.
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Post by dixiechicksfan on Jun 30, 2011 9:13:01 GMT -8
I liked both songs.
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Post by erik on Jun 30, 2011 9:31:20 GMT -8
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That depends. I know of several "hot country" hits that integrate banjo and fiddle these days, but you can barely hear them over a loud wall of electric guitars, as if, in trying to prove their "country-ness" (whatever the hell that means now), they want to deny the rural aspect of the music, and drown it all in a Lynyrd Skynyrd-type Southern rock assault. It's rather dumb to do it that way, and I don't think the CYH did it on their album, nor the Chicks on theirs.
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Post by sthdvs2012 on Jun 30, 2011 10:02:05 GMT -8
Sin Wagon would not be worth a shit without the solos IMHO... and as far as Country Music and banjo.... Emily is the reason banjo is on EVERYTHING these days. It is kind of annoying. The point that I am making is... I like Phoebe the exact way they played it on the chat.
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Post by redbarron on Jun 30, 2011 13:27:35 GMT -8
I loved both songs exactly the way they were played and hope they are on the album.
Bingo...I didn't expect the Chicks to be on a long hiatus, but I knew they weren't really having fun on that next to last date in Austin. It seemed they were on automatic.
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Post by Bingo on Jun 30, 2011 18:24:32 GMT -8
That depends. I know of several "hot country" hits that integrate banjo and fiddle these days, but you can barely hear them over a loud wall of electric guitars, as if, in trying to prove their "country-ness" (whatever the hell that means now), they want to deny the rural aspect of the music, and drown it all in a Lynyrd Skynyrd-type Southern rock assault. It's rather dumb to do it that way, and I don't think the CYH did it on their album, nor the Chicks on theirs. This is a topic very close to my heart , lol! - but I do take a rather different perspective on some of those points. "Denying the rural aspect of the music" is certainly one way of looking at - but it's not how I'd characterize it. I'm pretty sure Country Music would have taken up electric guitars with or without Nashville. The pedal steel is certainly not a traditional rural instrument - yet it quickly became perhaps the most identifiable badge of a Country musical arrangement. The same would apply to electric guitars - I once had an interesting discussion about this with Cary Fridley (who does use electric instruments in her new band "Down South"). She and I agreed on that point - she thought that artists like Lowe Stokes would probably have played electric guitar if they'd been born a couple of generations later. As I've argued in another thread, Country Music is such a broad range of styles that the traditional and the progressive will always exist side by side - and will sometimes be merged in the same performance. Naturally, we won't all always want or like this - no one likes everything, but no one owns Country Music, or can limit its evolution or interpretation. The electric wall of sound is a vital part of the cutting edge of Texhoma alternative Country, roadhouse and Red Dirt music generally. Some of us are convinced that it's how honky tonk and related styles of what was once considered "mainstream" would have developed, if the Nashville Sound hadn't concentrated on the money spinning sugar Pop. Today, Nashville (sometimes) uses its own version of the wall of sound - but it would probably have developed more organically if they'd left it to the "Outlaws".
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Post by Bingo on Jun 30, 2011 18:33:55 GMT -8
I've managed to get most of the lyrics to "Phoebe", except for a rapidly sung line near the end.
Oh, Daddy said, keep a cool head Don't let those pretty boys own you, Don't let them in your bed Everyone knows how the river of talk does flow They'll make you weep, but they'll reap what they sow The golden rule, never learnt in school Boys'll be mean, but girls are downright cruel Hey! You're gonna make 'em pay Hey! You had the last word to say Your Daddy said, walk away instead Don't let those pretty girls throw you, Don't let them in your head A small town spell, you're in Hell It's a story we've all heard before That you won't live to tell Hey! You're gonna make 'em pay Hey! You had the last word today Back from school, you walk alone Empty street, and no one's home They weave their stories, spread their lies (unrecognized line) It ain't right. it ain't right Gonna make you pay tonight"
(As I'm sure many of you know, this was inspired by the case of a girl who had a brief relationship with an older school sports star, and was bullied by jealous girls who resented the fact that her recent immigrant status put her outside their approved peer group. The bullying tragically led to her suicide - but also to juvenile criminal charges against some of the students)
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Post by erik on Jun 30, 2011 19:11:46 GMT -8
Quote by Bingo:
I think country music did take up electric guitars quite early, perhaps with Western Swing, but more so with the Bakersfield Sound of the 1960s, especially Buck Owens (whose main guitar man Don Rich was a key component in Buck's approach). And the steel guitar, not to mention the Dobro, have their roots in Hawaiian slide guitar; the inherent twang of both became integral to C&W.
What I guess I meant to say is that a lot of these hits that use the more traditional instruments like the banjo, fiddle, mandolin, and Dobro don't particularly use them other than to seemingly prove their "country-ness"; and by drowning them in a welter of screaming electric guitars, they diminish the rural and rough-hewn aspect that makes the music what it has been. Not that they need to sound "hillbilly" or any of that--but to me, they don't really understand the very real nature of the music they're supposedly doing.
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Post by bozar on Jul 2, 2011 1:07:15 GMT -8
emily s lyrics are becoming more and more impressive
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Post by Bingo on Jul 2, 2011 7:26:29 GMT -8
Yes, I agree. The variation in the pretty boys/pretty girls couplets was a neat lyrical device. I think the song needs lyrics - I am very impressed with the musical arrangement (which I hope they keep on the album), but if they did it as a pure instrumental, it would be hard to convey the ideas in the theme, or even make the connection with the Phoebe incident.
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Post by Bingo on Jul 2, 2011 7:48:55 GMT -8
What I guess I meant to say is that a lot of these hits that use the more traditional instruments like the banjo, fiddle, mandolin, and Dobro don't particularly use them other than to seemingly prove their "country-ness"; and by drowning them in a welter of screaming electric guitars, they diminish the rural and rough-hewn aspect that makes the music what it has been. Not that they need to sound "hillbilly" or any of that--but to me, they don't really understand the very real nature of the music they're supposedly doing. I've found a recent example that I think illustrates Erik's point. It's the song "Country Strong" (which - whether people like it or not - is a kind of "anthem" for the notion of rural tenacity and survival.) Hard Rain have some of the best acoustic instrumentalists on the Country scene - and they gave Carrie Hassler plenty of space to impose her character on a song that was written for a female vocal: I always thought that 2008 track was the original - but I was wrong. Britni Hoover had already recorded it on a 2007 album. I don't want to criticise Britni's studio album (which I haven't heard, but may be pretty good - she seems to have a nice voice from what I can hear) - but in this live performance, I'm afraid she sounds swamped by the two male musicians (one of whom is the father of the harmony singer.) The musical arrangement is actually good (the song doesn't have to be interpreted as Bluegrass) - but the sound balance here is wrong for the vocal, giving the singer a struggle to convey the lyric. Although some fans here have regarded Emily's voice as soft - I'm getting more and more hooked. I think Emily's voice goes well with her songs (in a variety of tempos), and I think her performances have a good degree of empathy with her musicians
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Post by natkins on Jul 2, 2011 10:29:11 GMT -8
I'm gonna have to try and find the time to watch this webchat. It was airing at the same time I was being discharged from the hospital. You guys are making me curious about these songs.
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Post by bozar on Jul 2, 2011 14:58:04 GMT -8
good to have you here natkins , be well my friend
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Post by chicksfan on Jul 2, 2011 15:48:39 GMT -8
Oops, see other thread...
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Post by sthdvs2012 on Jul 2, 2011 16:42:35 GMT -8
I think Martie had something to do with the writing of Phoebe.
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Post by Kallie on Jul 5, 2011 11:45:28 GMT -8
Phoebe did not sound the same with lyrics. I was disappointed and yes Martie we love instrumentals!! That's why yall still play Lil Jack Slade in your shows.
Happy Days was a disappointment to me. Or maybe its the acoustics that didn't sound right.
With all the new songs they have been playing it seems they should have enough songs for the new album pretty soon.
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Post by Kallie on Jul 5, 2011 11:46:25 GMT -8
I think Martie had something to do with the writing of Phoebe. She did or at least it was her idea based on a true story. Has something to do with the Irish...thats all I remember.
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