bozar
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Post by bozar on May 5, 2009 0:26:37 GMT -8
so what do you think the next album will sell?
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Post by Tony on May 5, 2009 2:48:13 GMT -8
Do you mean copies or a form of message?
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Post by bozar on May 5, 2009 4:23:49 GMT -8
no no i m talking about album sales
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Post by bozar on May 5, 2009 4:28:46 GMT -8
i a m also curious about the style of music and how they will market themselves. maybe through themselves country format again ?
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Post by bozar on May 5, 2009 4:29:49 GMT -8
maybe through country music again sorry
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Post by Bingo on May 5, 2009 10:02:33 GMT -8
I've seen no sign that the Chicks want to go back to the commercial Country sector, but even if they did, I think it would be very difficult now. In 2003, the Chicks lost a large part of the general Country audience, but kept a large part of their own core fan base. I think that if they'd made a determined push for that sector, they could probably have retained about half of the commercial Country audience in 2006. (That, of course, would have had both advantages and disadvantages in the old "Half full/half empty" sense) But I think that opportunity is gone now, anyway. They didn't play for it, they're no longer listed on Sony Nashville's artist roster, most of the expertise and contacts that previously promoted them has withered away in six years, the friendly DJs who might have played them in 2003 got no interviews, no news (and in most cases, not even a copy of the record). Moreover, the chicks made a number of non-political remarks that showed dislike of the sector (and were interpreted as showing dislike of its fans). The field was effectively left to their enemies, and I think that sector is virtually dead for them now. Their own loyal fan base will still give them a respectable sale. Beyond that, they can still sell to Roots Country fans - but that audience probably isn't big enough to meet their expectations - and I think they'll hope to sell to "general music" fans as well. That's the big unknown. To me, the signs don't look all that promising. I'm thinking of the fact that the last album failed to get much radio play in the general Pop sector, and the US concert sales fell short of hopes. This time, they'll be coming out without an obvious base - and largely without the positive media interest sparked by the "incident" and its backlash. I'm afraid it's always seemed to me that the Chicks have tended to over-estimate the extent to which their music and status as entertainers has won the attention of general listeners outside the Country sector - and they did very little to promote the new music, beyond NRTMN. However - I don't follow the general Pop sector closely - and I'm very ready to be proved wrong on all those counts!
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Post by Tony on May 6, 2009 1:22:46 GMT -8
Well put as usual Bingo. Musically they are nowhere at the moment and from a business point of view if the next project ever gets off the ground I wouldn't expect Sony would want to invest in a huge amount of promo. For me they and Sony are over, and once this last album is done on that contract then a change in direction with another label (hopefully a smaller company with more of a slant on a genre of music) is the only way I can see them shifting lots of CD's. In today's market, I don't expect that selling CD's is the most important statistic to the girls themselves.
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Post by bozar on May 6, 2009 2:59:37 GMT -8
do you think TTLW has sold respectable , good or great?
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Post by bozar on May 6, 2009 3:04:33 GMT -8
i would love love love to see them on rounder records
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Post by alikat on May 6, 2009 3:07:15 GMT -8
i would love love love to see them on rounder records I thought that records were as round as they can possibly be You learn something new almost every day on here............
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Post by bozar on May 6, 2009 3:42:56 GMT -8
no no, Rounder Records the label of allison kraus
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Post by duncan175 on May 6, 2009 13:35:50 GMT -8
all depends on how much promotion is done
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Post by Bingo on May 6, 2009 20:58:28 GMT -8
do you think TTLW has sold respectable , good or great ? I'd say sales were definitely good - especially bearing in mind the decline of hard-copy CD sales generally, and the fact that the Chicks had very limited radio support. At the same time, though, it does seem Natalie was expecting higher sales. When Bill O'Reilly predicted the album would sell two million, Natalie took issue, and seems to have seen it as a put-down. (But whatever O'Reilly's other views, he did turn out to be pretty accurate on that point, as far as the US sales went) I think the changes since 2003 will be more evident next time, and the Chicks will probably take that into account in forecasting future levels. As far as touring goes, the impact could work either way - you could say that likely smaller sales would mean a scaled-down tour agenda. But you could also say that there could be more need to switch the emphasis to touring to make up revenue. Either way, I think it's very important for the Chicks to vary the songs they promote, and put more videos on newer channels like MySpace and YouTube, to compensate for the lack of radio support.
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Post by Tony on May 7, 2009 3:09:40 GMT -8
do you think TTLW has sold respectable , good or great ? I'd say it sold ok/respectable all in all.
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Post by Kallie on Nov 17, 2010 21:26:17 GMT -8
Sold better than Mariah Carey's Glitter album...lol
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Post by james on Nov 18, 2010 1:51:39 GMT -8
Iv heard they are going along the glee/Taylor Swift road.
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Post by Tony on Nov 19, 2010 2:34:57 GMT -8
Iv heard they are going along the glee/Taylor Swift road. I think they'd really fit the 'glee' type of hype. I can just see Nat chucking a brick throught Toby Keith's truck windscreen!!
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Post by james on Nov 19, 2010 4:54:52 GMT -8
Iv heard they are going along the glee/Taylor Swift road. I think they'd really fit the 'glee' type of hype. I can just see Nat chucking a brick throught Toby Keith's truck windscreen!! We can only dream.
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Post by bill451 on Nov 22, 2010 16:42:08 GMT -8
The album actually sold very well. As others have pointed out, they had no radio support but the cd went on to sell more than 2.3 million copies in the US. Sales were far higher than other established acts that released cds around the same time and received a great deal of airplay including Toby Keith, Brad Paisley, etc. So, while the cd did not sell WOS, FLY or Home numbers, it still did very well.
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Post by ker8 on Dec 5, 2010 15:55:00 GMT -8
^very few artists/bands will sell #s like WOS or FLY again.
I presume they'll have at least one more go around with an album. But, it could easily not be for another 5 years or more. I know that's a depressing thought, but it's where we're at.
I agree Bingo, I think that if they'd tried, they could have salvaged something out of the radio audience. Even now, I think country radio could play them if they gave them something besides NRTMN as their first single in 3 yrs. TTLW could have been well received (or at least better) as could a number of other songs on the album.
Presuming they do put out another record, it will be interesting to see how it fares. If they don't receive radio airplay, at this point I believe it's been long enough that all the so-called "new fans" the Chicks talk about, who started listening to them after the incident to support their free speech, will likely have vanished due to the large time between records. All that will be left are the die-hards, which, imho, represented a large majority of the 2 million albums sold for TTLW anyway.
I'm personally hoping Shania puts out the album she's been promising fans, soon. I believe her return to the country airwaves could help the Chicks out, in terms of goodwill. Could be wishful thinking on my part though.
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Post by Kallie on Jun 24, 2011 15:04:15 GMT -8
It is really hard to imagine WHERE they fit in. I mean country radio won't play them and I don't see Nat going along the path that Martie and Em have chosen because she is too hardcore. Her voice is beyond that and I think the record company knows that.
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Post by erik on Jun 24, 2011 15:22:02 GMT -8
Quote by ker8:
Our main country music station out here in L.A., Go Country 105, has played "Ready To Run" and "Wide Open Spaces" as of late, though that's pretty much it (Taylor Swift they play incessantly). In general, though I think Go Country's playlist, like those of a lot of other country stations, is determined by who runs things in Nashville, the listening habits of Angelenos with regards to country music is more left-of-center than most.
With respect to a new album, I think the thing that might satisfy fans would be a cross between Home and Taking The Long Way--a mix of the earlier album's bluegrass, and the later album's emphasis on L.A.-to-Austin C&W/rock.
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Post by lovedxc on Jun 25, 2011 2:01:22 GMT -8
^ I really like this idea of a cross between the sounds of Home & TLLW.
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Post by redbarron on Jun 25, 2011 7:37:36 GMT -8
I think if they went back to country, they would sell a heck of a lot more than the pop/rock they have been doing. Especially if they use that banjo and fiddle more. Like Bingo said, they don't seem to be interested in it anymore however. I feel they can put out a country album without "giving up their principles" but that's just me.
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Post by erik on Jun 27, 2011 18:45:54 GMT -8
Quote by redbarron:
They can, in my opinion, but I think they'd want to avoid pandering to an audience, or trying to make your average Nashville "product." And as I've said, perhaps a compromise between their last two studio albums is reasonable. After all, a number of the earliest L.A.-based C&W/rock albums of the late 60s contained bluegrass instrumentation to them.
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